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Tuesday, October 31, 2017


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Are you truly free? Can you really spend your money as you see fit? Can you express your actual thoughts without affecting your employment or your finances? Can you say anything you want without any negative consequences? At first, the natural answer is, “yes, of course I can.” But can you really? If you stop and think about these questions for a couple of minutes, you will start to realize that the answer is not so obvious.
The government actually dictates to you how much of your money you can keep for yourself and how much you must “give” to them. Does the word “tax” ring a bell? Who doesn’t carefully consider their words before they speak, especially if they are speaking in front of their boss or their customers. Expressing certain thoughts can have a negative effect on your life and your finances. In our politically correct culture, you must be extra careful concerning what you say and who you allow to hear your true thoughts. Is this really freedom?
In truth, you are not truly free. You are free to live your life as you see fit as long as you adhere to certain boundaries that our government sets up, and those boundaries are becoming more and more restrictive every year. Just look at the changes in the political climate over the last 30 years. More and more of your freedoms are slipping away and the government always seems to justify it one way or another. See things as they really are and take the appropriate steps to ensure your future.

Monday, October 30, 2017

Waco Day 897

Waco will never end. For the jurors in the first Biker Brawl trial, listening to the prosecution’s  slow motion attempt to manufacture a criminal case against Dallas Bandido Jake Carrizal day after day, week after week must be like drowning in a manure pond.
The trial, originally scheduled to begin October 9, will enter its fourth week tomorrow. This is only trial one of a possible 192. There are also about 100 civil complaints for false arrest waiting for the criminal cases to end. A handful of civil suits have been filed against the Twin Peaks restaurant. And then just over the horizon is the prospect of a RICO case titled United States v. Reyna et al. And then just a few months after that the dream of the promised land, a vision of McClennan County District Attorney Abelino Reyna in an orange jumpsuit accented with shackles and a belly chain, listening as a humorless judge reads him the plea colloquy. “And how far did you go in school, Mr. Reyna? Do you understand the charges against you? Do you understand that by making this plea you may be giving up certain of your rights” Like the right to see the stars at night, big and bright, for, say, eight or nine years.
If the prosecutors were actual human beings they would know they have lost. If the four grand inquisitors – Brody Burks, Amanda Dillon, Michael Jarrett and Abel Reyna – actually had evidence that Carrizal was guilty of some crime they would have mentioned it by now. Don’t you think? Wouldn’t you? They have not because they do not. Their only recourse seems to be to delay and delay and delay the inevitable contempt and scorn they are bringing on themselves.

Blood Soaked Photos

Just Friday, defense attorney Casie Gotro complained that she still hasn’t seen all the evidence in this overblown case. She insinuated that she may eventually move for a mistrial. Carrizal will probably be acquitted before it comes to that
This is a contextless prosecution. This jury is compelled to watch a drama written by idiots, full of blood soaked crime photos and baseless accusations glued together by half-baked conjecture and inference. The presentation of the ballistics evidence just started at the end of the third week. Maybe the defense will get its turn soon. But the prosecution just called its 45th witness. Its witness list has 450 names on it so this could take awhile
Prosecutors are deliberately misleading the jury in order to secure a conviction against a 35-year-old family man who is, at most, guilty of not trusting a system run by people like the prosecutors. This is not a trial. This is a political campaign. It is a political campaign because that is what these arrogant nitwits know how to win. None of them gives a damn about justice. They only care about winning.

Willie Horton

This prosecutorial team is comprised of what Paddy Chayesky called humanoids. They are not people who know the world from experience. They know the world at secondhand. They are the kind of very smart people who don’t get art or religion. That is why it is so easy for them to try to slander Carrizal’s character.
None of them even has the simple human capacity to feel ashamed. The low point this week may have come when prosecutors actually had the gall to show jurors images of all the dead including Jesus “Jesse” “Mohawk” Rodriguez. Then they showed the jury photos of Jacob Rhyne who was one of the two men who assassinated Rodriguez like he was a rabid possum. The jury was supposed to infer that somehow all the deaths were Jake Carrizal’s fault. Because he was there. Because he didn’t stay home that day. Because he knew the Cossacks were dangerous and he refused to be bullied by them. Because he subscribes to an old fashioned code of honor that forbids men to allow themselves to be bullied. That’s why the prosecutors wanted “to do” Carrizal first. He’s too big for his britches.
The idea in this case is to convince 12 jurors, not 10 or 11, but 12, that Christopher Jacob Carrizal is Willie Horton. Reyna and his running dogs are trying to convince the jury that Rhyne didn’t shoot Mohawk Rodriguez in the head. Carrizal did. It is an absurd notion and the only explanation for the prosecution’s case is that all of them are such egotistical provincials that they think they can convince anybody of anything.

Jasmin Caldwell

They can’t even convince a local television reporter named Jasmin Caldwell.
Prosecutors put crime scene technicians on the stand for days, and what they proved was that everybody in Texas carries a weapon and Waco has crime scene investigators just like all those big, uppity cities out there beyond the Brazos. You know, like Durango. Oh, and the technicians and operators and other important police persons found very many guns at the scene. So by the looney tunes logic of this whole wacky case, the jury should also infer that Jake Carrizal must be the biggest gun dealer in Central Texas.
“Witnesses painted a mental picture of the day for the jury,” Caldwell wrote Wednesday, “but little was discussed that appeared to actually relate to the defendant and his alleged relation to the evidence being presented.”
So now I’m back in Waco. Friday I pitched some people from The New Yorker, The Atlantic, Vanity Fair, The Times Sunday Magazine and Rolling Stone. No go so far. Friday night a woman I know a little, not a lot, asked me why I was wasting my time on this.
I’m came back anyway. Here goes another three grand. Keep reading. I’m starting to get angry.


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Saturday, October 28, 2017

The Vegas Vagos Case

Buried in a footnote, at the bottom of the third page of the United States’ eight page “Response to Motion to Reopen” a detention hearing for Vagos Motorcycle Club president Pastor Fausto “Ta Ta” Palafox, is a clue to why the case is being adjudicated in Vegas. The response was filed last June 29. The note reads:
“In August 2010, Homeland Security Investigation (HSI) in Riverside, California began a TIII wiretap investigation targeting the Vagos involving numerous telephones over a nine-month period. Telephones by Defendants Palafox, Lozano, Siemer, Juarez, and others, were intercepted.”
The footnote elaborates the government’s assertion that “The evidence against Palafox includes but is not limited to witness testimony, Title III intercepts,1 and video surveillance.”

Hello Officer

Palafox wasn’t the only guy whose phone was tapped. Two million conversations involving 44,000 people were authorized by a single Riverside County, California judge named Helios Hernandez. Federal investigators usually prefer to have state courts authorize wiretaps because the local judges are less worried about Constitutional technicalities. Federal judges usually view wiretaps as a last resort. The wiretaps authorized by Hernandez remain mostly sealed and the ones pertinent to the Vagos case have not yet been shown to defense attorneys.
The indictment of 23 Vagos was returned by a grand jury on September 6, 2016 but the indictment remained sealed and nobody was arrested until June 16, 2017. The weak and surplusage filled indictment illustrates the power of prosecutors to punish people they don’t like by simply accusing them of being criminals.

Conspiracy To Murder

For example, Palafox is accused of ordering the murder of Jeffrey Pettigrew, president of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club’s San Jose charter, who died in a brawl between the two clubs in John Ascuaga’s Nugget Casino in Sparks, Nevada on September 23, 2011. The accusation was made in a state trial in Reno by an ex-Vago named Gary “Jabbers” Rudnick. Rudnick was the fellow who actually started the fight that led to Pettigrew’s death. He was expelled from the Vagos the next day.
In a signed statement recanting his testimony, Rudnick later wrote:“There was no conspiracy” to kill Pettigrew. “It was just a fight between me and him.” Rudnick wrote that state prosecutor Karl Hall fabricated the conspiracy and offered Rudnick a lighter sentence for his perjury. “He told me … what he wanted me to change to lie for him,” Rudnick wrote. “I was looking at 25 years in prison.”

Answer Is

Many of the accusations in the indictment are based on investigative reports made by a Los Angeles County Sheriff and sometime Tactical Field Officer for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives named Augustino Brancato. In an associated case that was folded into the current indictment, Brancato was caught on tape plotting to lie about a defendant.
After Brad Heath and Brett Kelman of USA Today broke the news about the massive wiretapping expedition in Riverside County in 2015, federal prosecutors in Los Angeles, where most of the accused Vagos live, told federal investigators they would no longer prosecute cases based largely on wiretaps authorized by state court judges.
And that is why the Vagos case is being prosecuted in Las Vegas.

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Saturday, October 14, 2017

Can You Buy A License to Speed?


In the parking lots of Silicon Valley’s venture capital firms, expensive cars gleam in the California sun. Successful tech companies like Facebook may have set a culture of not flaunting wealth, but the Valley’s financiers don’t feel similarly restrained. The prototypical car is a Porsche 911, with its impractical two-door design that tells the world, “I have money to burn.” 
A closer look reveals that the cars share a mysterious detail: they nearly all have a custom license plate frame that reads, “Member. 11-99 Foundation.” If you look for it, you’ll start noticing the same license plate frames on nice cars throughout the area. BMWs parked outside upscale Palo Alto restaurants have the plates. Sports cars zipping up and down Highway 101 do as well. 
Are the Bay Area’s wealthy all part of some sort of illuminati group that identifies each other by license plate instead of secret handshakes? If the foundation is a charitable one, what cause has garnered such elite support?
The answer is the state highway patrol -- the men and women that most people interact with only when getting ticketed for speeding. A number of the frames read “CHP 11-99 Foundation,” which is the full name of a charitable organization that supports California Highway Patrol officers and their families in times of crisis. Along with engraved mugs, jackets, and leather wallets, the foundation gives out the license plate frames as tokens of thanks to donors who become “Lifetime Members.” Donors receive one license plate as part of a $2,500 “Classic” level donation, or two as part of a bronze, silver, or gold level donation of $5,000, $10,000, or $25,000. 
Rumor has it, however, that the license plate frames come with a lucrative return on investment. With a frame announcing that the driver has contributed a substantial amount of money to a fund that benefits highway patrol officers, donors believe that cops won’t give them speeding tickets.
“I have the ultimate speeding ticket solution,” a member of a Mercedes-Benz owners community wrote online back in 2002. “I paid $1800 for a lifetime membership into the 11-99 foundation. My only goal was to get the infamous ‘get out of jail’ free license plate frame.” A more recent post on a sports car site reads, “I have been stopped with the frame on my car only once, and I was let go. The officer specifically referenced the license plate frame as the reason he let me go.”
Which raises the question, can California drivers buy a license to speed?
An Old Story
The question of whether 11-99 Foundation license plate frames allow wealthy drivers to buy their way out of speeding tickets is an old one. The 11-99 Foundation has sold license plate frames for most of its 32 year existence, and drivers have been aware of the potential benefits since at least the late 1990s. But attention to the issue in 2006-2008 led the foundation to stop giving out the frames.
In 2006, a blog post about the frames entitled “Culture of Corruption” reached the top of the Google search results for the foundation, prompting representatives to contact the author. A police officer forum described the situation with the frames as “out of control.” An article in the LA Times asked “Can Drivers Buy CHP Leniency?” The article began by describing a young man zipping around traffic -- including a police cruiser -- and telling the Times that he believed his 11-99 frames kept him from receiving a ticket.
In response to the interest from the LA Times, the CHP’s new commissioner investigated the issue and described himself as “surprised” and “bothered.” He drew up a memo for the agency that stressed that no special consideration should be given to any drivers, and he contacted the 11-99 Foundation. 
In September 2008, the 11-99 Foundation announced it would “phase out the distribution of Member license-plate frames to donors, effective January 1, 2009,” in order to protect its good name. No more license plate frames were given out for several years until, curiously, the foundation decided to bring them back.
Getting Out of Speeding Tickets: A Cottage Industry
Without the ability to purchase frames from the foundation, buyers turned to secondary markets. 11-99 Foundation donors had long sold extra frames on Craigslist, eBay, and forums for owners of pricey cars. The foundation’s decision made them an increasingly hot commodity. 
But the decision was almost irrelevant to another thriving market: the production and sale of fake 11-99 license plate frames. Drivers who heard about the “speeding ticket insurance,” but didn’t have a few thousand dollars to spend on it, commissioned or bought fakes for under one hundred dollars a pop. “I was traveling south on the 101 yesterday and spotted at least three fake 11-99 foundation license plate frames,” one police officer shared on an online forum. “The first was TOTALLY fake like something a person had made at a swap meet or bought online for $10.” It’s “out of control,” another added.
11-99 license plate frames are prominent in the Bay Area where Priceonomics is located. But spending time on the sites where they are bought and sold reveals that they represent only one part of a gray market of license plate frames that people believe offer an insider’s wink to cops.
Many police departments give out or sell license plate frames with officer’s local radio call sign. Cops and their friends and family can use the frames on their personal vehicles, and many believe it lets officers know to be lenient on a fellow officer or his/her family. As a result, the secondhand market is full of license plate frames, fake and legitimate. 
A BMW owner shows off his license plate with a LAPD call sign. Some frames are available only to officers; others are sold publicly. Since so many people make fakes or buy secondhand, many officers say they assume the owner is not a cop and may even be a criminal with something to hide.
One enterprising fellow shared his strategy for avoiding tickets: veteran license plate frames. Although he is not a veteran, the frames are sold publicly, so he buys them under the assumption that cops don’t want to ticket veterans. Others swapped stories of local police departments that gave out license plate frame stickers for each $100 donation.
If all else fails, speeders can cover their windows with "We support our local police" stickers. Although according to some officers, that can backfire, drawing police attention. “Somehow the cars that have [stickers] always lead to tickets/arrests,” one officer writes.
California drivers, however, no longer need to search out old 11-99 frames. The foundation once again offers license plate frames to donors. A frame can be had for a $2,500 donation; two for $5,000.
Does It Work?
If cops really are lenient toward 11-99 Foundation donors, it’s not a problem the police currently acknowledge.
When we called the Palo Alto police department to ask about the license plate frames around Stanford, an officer informed us that “most cops are familiar with the program,” but that the frames were never discussed in the department. (Local police departments wouldn’t necessarily be motivated by the frames, since the 11-99 Foundation exclusively benefits the state highway patrol.) The officer replied to questions about officers treating frame owners differently with standard lines about “patrol impartiality” and tickets being given “at the discretion of the officer.” 
At the California Highway Patrol, Officer John Michael Harris told us that the perception of 11-99 frames as a license to speed is “not accurate at all.” To the foundation’s credit, Officer Harris said that the 11-99 Foundation told the highway patrol to report if any of their members attempted to use their status for preferential treatment so that the foundation could rescind that donor’s membership.
When we asked whether individual officers may take the frames into consideration, Harris replied with a flat “No” and stated that officers never give “preferential treatment based on affiliation.” Inquiring how the CHP could be unconcerned -- despite the commissioner finding it necessary in 2008 to contact the foundation and remind officers not to give anyone preferential treatment -- Harris repeated that citation decisions were impartial and “at the discretion of the officer.”
Owners of the license plate frames certainly believe that they are effective -- although not 100% of the time. Posts on forums for sports car owners are full of people claiming to get out of tickets with the frame, and anecdotally people have shared stories of wealthy neighbors recommending the frames to avoid tickets. But it could be a false perception. 
On, in a discussion about 11-99 frames (and fakes) mentioned earlier, a number of cops weighed in. Priceonomics is still trying to verify identities, so their statements could be fabrications. But it presents an intriguing perspective of officers’ potential views on the 11-99 frames.
A number of cops reported ignoring the license plate frames when they decided whether to pull over and ticket drivers. One cop describes a driver whose “first words” were about the stickers indicating the donations he made. When the driver insisted that they required big donations, the cop replied, “Well, paying for these citations shouldn’t be a problem.”
But some answers indicate that people have reason to believe that the frames will help them avoid tickets. In addition to the frames, the CHP 11-99 Foundation gives out membership cards to big donors. In reference to secondhand or fake frames, one cop wrote, “Unless you have the I.D. in hand when (not if) I stop you, no love will be shown.” Another added, “Ya gotta have more than just a license plate frame or a sticker.” The implication from these officers seems to be that buying a fake license plate frame is useless, but real donors will receive some leniency.
The Road is Paved with Good Intentions
The 11-99 Foundation’s announcement in 2008 that it would no longer provide license plate frames did not cite donors motivated by a desire to avoid speeding tickets. It focused on the sale of frames on secondary markets in violation of the foundation’s policy that the frames are property of the 11-99 Foundation. The announcement complained that sites like eBay did not comply with requests to take down listings for the frames. Then president Edward Trickey stated that “it’s really important to block these sales, so we can prevent the frames from being misused, especially by people who don’t share the 11-99 Foundation’s goals.”
The idea that none of the foundation's donors have an interest in avoiding speeding tickets -- whether it works or not -- and that only secondhand buyers see the speeding ticket insurance angle does seem like wishful thinking. Everything reported in this story is public knowledge, and the foundation's own frequently asked questions page finds it necessary to stress that the foundation doesn’t simply sell license plate frames.
A reproduction 11-99 license plate frame available for sale on a license plate frame website 
Yet this still seems to be the foundation’s official stance. After failing to reach the foundation’s CEO, administrative assistant Jenny Lawrence answered our questions. Ms. Lawrence told us that the foundation did not believe donors were using the plates to avoid traffic citations (in her words: it is “not something we are actively working to address at this point"), and she replied that the frames were brought back after a redesign rather than due to declining donations. Ms. Lawrence acknowledged that the frames were changed to no longer have the acronym “CHP” on the frame, but focused on the problems the foundation previously had with “people selling them online.” 
No one is getting rich by selling 11-99 license plate frames, and the donations go to a well regarded cause. The CHP 11-99 Foundation has donated over $21 million in emergency assistance to the families of police officers, particularly officers killed in duty. If cops are being lenient, it’s not in exchange for donations to a slush fund. 
But there’s not really an argument for keeping the license plate frames. The foundation says the frames play a valuable marketing role, but it doesn’t seem worth the negative perception. If they do function as a license to speed, it does a disservice to the highway patrol by allowing the wealthy to buy preferential treatment. And if they don’t, donors sincerely giving $2,500 or more should be just as happy with complementary jackets and mugs as a license plate frame.
We propose a simple experiment. The foundation could track down the owners of the Porsches and BMWs sporting 11-99 frames, explain the bad publicity the frames cause, and offer the donors a new 11-99 Foundation jacket in exchange for turning in their license plate frame. If they donated for good reasons, and use the plate to spread the foundation’s name, they should happily return the frame and put on the jacket as they head to their next meeting.
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2nd Annual Ride To Live Forgotten Sons MC CHAPPO chapter

Saturday, October 28 at 11 AM - 3 PM
Elks Lodge 444 Country Club Lane Oceanside CA 92054
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The 2nd Annual Ride To Live charity event by the Forgotten Sons MC
benefitting the American Soldier Network.....

Music performances featuring Dave Bray USA and Radio 80s

The day will have food, prizes, auction, heroes, outdoor beer garden and so much more!!!!

Ticket info stay tuned.
Stay tune for more announcements as they are available!

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Tuesday, October 10, 2017

Knife Laws in California: Is It Legal to Carry One?

The information posted below is from a well-known article written by
Jim March on 5/16/2002 titled, "California Knife Laws: A Comprehensive
Guide," url:

Also Sy Nazif, Esq. article is from the Bailingwire, newsletter.


Philip & Bill

FOR THOSE OF US HERE IN O`SIDE CA, it is written out below.



 California Knife Laws, Since Oceanside PD follows the state statue here it is,

Oceanside City Code 20. 10

Sec. 20.10 – Weapons - Possession in Public - Prohibited

No person shall be or appear in any street, alley, sidewalk, parkway
or any public place or place open to public view while carrying upon
his person, or having in his immediate possession, any dangerous or
deadly weapon. This section shall not be construed to duplicate
prohibitions of California state statute, or to prohibit the
possession of weapons expressly authorized by California state



First thing: don't get nervous. If you've read this, you're not going
to be breaking any knife laws.  California's knife laws are actually
pretty decent, better than most states (even the shall-issue gun
permit ones).  If you're nervous, the cop will read that, and he won't
know what to think - but the conversation WILL go downhill.

If you're walking past a cop with a legally concealed knife, DO NOT
"pat the knife" to make sure the concealment is still effective.
That's the number one way cops spot people packing guns illegally.
They'll think that's what you're doing.  The resulting conversation
won't be pleasant.

If there's any chance at all that the guy is gonna search you,
politely declare that you're carrying a "pocketknife legal under state
law".  Got that?  Tell him where it is on you, let him take control of
nuthin' unless he tells you to do so.  At all times, act like this is
just a normal business transaction.

So what if he/she thinks your piece(s) is/are illegal?

You explain that California knife law has changed a bunch of times
starting in 1997 and twice more that you know of, so you're not
terribly surprised there's confusion.  Calmly explain as much of the
relevant Penal Codes as you can recall...if you're into big folders,
PC653k and the bit in 12020 about "not readily available if concealed
in the closed position" is a start.  If he ain't buying, calmly ask
for a supervisor.

If he wants to confiscate your cutlery, ASK FOR A RECEIPT.  If he says
anything about "that'll mean you'll get a ticket too, and/or an
arrest", stand your ground and calmly ask for a receipt.  He's
bluffing because he wants your knife.  Sorry if any cops reading this
are offended, but it happens - I've met enough people it's happened to
to be a believer, although it hasn't happened to me.  If he just plain
takes it without a receipt, get his badge number and/or car number (if
the latter is all you can get, record the TIME).  If it was a city or
county cop, make a THEFT complaint in detail with your nearest
California Highway Patrol station (they investigate local wrongdoing).
 If it was CHP, hmmm...complain to the CHP supervisors maybe, or the
Sheriff, but for God's sake don't let 'em off clean.


You have two choices: get the hell out of there ASAP and travel far
and fast, because odds are, crooks that get chased off by an armed
citizen love to file a "he threatened me" complaint and bust YOU.  Bug
out.  NOTE: we're talking about a situation in which you haven't
committed a crime, and since no actual violence occurred neither did
anybody else.  So "fleeing the scene" rules don't really apply.  And
you also don't want the SOB coming back with reinforcements and/or
heavy artillery.  Time to go!

If that's not possible, because the crook knows where you are or who
you are (or have your car's license plate number), jump on 911 and
report an attempted crime, pronto.  There are too many lazy cops that
just believe the first complaint.  Make yours first.  You'll probably
have one major advantage: the crook will have a violent record and you


When the cops show up, there are only three things you should say: I
was in fear of my life, I'm too shaken up to talk, I want a lawyer.
(If there are witnesses you know of, point them out to the cops and
tell the cops to talk to them.)

Bernie Goetz didn't do that.  He was furious at the four attempted
muggers, he made that anger plain in a long discussion down at the
station, and he ended up getting charged with murder and attempted
murder when it was absolutely clear-cut self defense.

When a cop gets involved in a shooting, they understand that
immediately afterwards, he's too shaken to explain clearly what
happened.  So most departments give him 24 hours to settle down before
talking to him.  But if you're involved in lethal force, some will
take advantage of your rattled state to pry garbled statements out of
you.  You HAVE the right to remain silent.  Use it.

I'm assuming here that if you drew or used steel, you had a damned
good reason.  That's a subject for a much more detailed (not to
mention PROFESSIONAL) treatment - see Introduction for some reference

Oceanside City Code 20. 10

Sec. 20.10 – Weapons - Possession in Public - Prohibited

No person shall be or appear in any street, alley, sidewalk, parkway
or any public place or place open to public view while carrying upon
his person, or having in his immediate possession, any dangerous or
deadly weapon. This section shall not be construed to duplicate
prohibitions of California state statute, or to prohibit the
possession of weapons expressly authorized by California state
 Knife Laws in California:  Is It Legal Carry One?
Written by Sy Nazif, Esq Taken from the BAILING WIRE,
 was given to me by John, From ABATE,  of CA

For my first Bailing Wiring Column, I was asked to write about knife
laws in California.  After researching the law, I certainly understood
why some confusion exists as to what is legal to carry and what isn’t:
there are over a dozen statutes on the subject, as well as numerous
municipal codes, and inconsistent court decisions that further muddy
the water.  This article is intended to shed some light on the rules
and inconsistencies in California knife laws.

Of course, I wouldn't be a very good attorney without giving a few
caveats before I begin.  First, remember that carrying any weapon,
even one that’s legal, can cause you a lot of grief with law
enforcement.  Cops routinely write tickets and make arrests for things
they incorrectly think is illegal.  Being found “not guilty” will not
make up for the time and aggravation of getting arrested and missing
work -- not to mention the cost of hiring an attorney.  Also, this
article only covers California law.  State laws can vary greatly, and
taking a knife that is legal in California over state lines may get
you into trouble with federal laws or laws of other states.  Local
ordinances may also impact the legality of your knife.

With those warnings out of the way, California laws covering
switchblades, daggers, and disguised blades are discussed below.  For
those of you with a short attention span, here is the summary:

In California, the following are illegal:  (1) Any knife with a blade
of 2" or longer, that can be opened with a button or the flick of your
wrist; (2) concealed possession of any "dirk" or "dagger," i.e., any
stabbing device with a fixed blade, regardless of blade length; (3)
possession or sale of any disguised blades, i.e., cane swords, writing
pen knives, lipstick knives, etc., or any knife that is undetectable
to metal detectors; (4) possession of a knife with a blade longer than
2 1/2" on any school grounds; (5) possession of a fixed-blade knife
with a blade longer than 2 1/2" on any college or university grounds;
and (6) flashing or waiving any knife or weapon in a threatening
manner.  Also, certain municipalities have their own laws that may
affect the legality of carrying a knife.  In Los Angeles, for example,
it's illegal to openly carry any knife with a blade longer than 3".

Each of the above issues is discusses in greater detail below.

Switchblades  - Penal Code § 653k

Switchblades and other spring-loaded knives are generally illegal in
California. Included in the legal definition of switchblade is "[any]
knife having the appearance of a pocketknife and includes a
spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other
similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more
inches in length and which can be released automatically by a flick of
a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other
mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by any
type of mechanism whatsoever."  The statute expressly excludes pocket
knives that can be opened with one hand by pushing the blade open with
one's thumb, as long as

the knife "has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance
that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade
back toward its closed position."

The statute further states that it is unlawful to : (1) to possess a
switchblade in a vehicle, (2) to carry a switchblade anywhere upon
one's person, or (3) to transfer or attempt to sell a switchblade to
another person. In the 2009 case of People v. S.C., the Court of
Appeals held that possession of a switchblade in a person's pocket,
boot, etc., is unlawful, even if even if in one's own home.  In other
words, it’s illegal to have a switchblade with a 2" or longer blade –

It should also be noted that a pocketknife that was legal when
manufactured, but is broken or modified so that it will open freely,
is a switchblade within the meaning of the statute. For example, in
the 2008 case of People v. Angel R., the Court of Appeals examined a
conviction over a pocketknife that, as originally manufactured, had a
hole in the back of the blade that prevented it from flicking open.
The trial court found, however, that the knife had been modified or
damaged, and the resistance mechanism did not function so that the
knife would open with a flick of the wrist.  Despite the original
design of the knife, the Court of Appeals upheld the conviction.

Concealed Knives, Dirks, and Daggers - Penal Code § 12020

In California, it is illegal for any person to carry concealed,
certain knives, legally described as "dirks" and "daggers," i.e., any
fixed-blade knife or stabbing weapon.  Pursuant to the statute, it is
illegal to carry concealed upon one's person any fixed-blade knife.
This does not include a legal (non-switchblade) pocketknife, as long
as that knife is closed.  Carrying a knife in an openly-worn sheath is
not concealment within the meaning of the statute.  As discussed
below, however, this law may be impacted by local ordinances.

Cane Swords and other Disguised Blades - Penal Code § 20200 et seq

Any knife or blade that is disguised so as to not look like a weapon
is also illegal in California.  This includes, cane swords,
belt-buckle knives, lipstick case knives, air gauge knives, writing
pen knives, etc.  Blades that are undetectable to metal detectors
(e.g., ceramic blades) are also illegal.

Possession of Knives on School Grounds - Penal Code § 626.10

It is illegal for any person to bring or possess "any dirk, dagger,
ice pick, knife having a blade longer than 2 1/2 inches, folding knife
with a blade that locks into place, [or] razor with an unguarded blade
. . . upon the grounds of, or within, any public or private school
providing instruction in kindergarten or any of grades 1 to 12 . . ."
The law with regard to college campuses is similar, but less
restrictive.  Subsection (b) of the statute provides that it is
illegal for any person to bring or possess "any dirk, dagger, ice
pick, or knife having a fixed blade longer than 2 1/2 inches upon the
grounds of, or within, any [college or university]."
Brandishing Knives - Penal Code § 417

In California, it is illegal to brandish any deadly weapon, including
knives.  The law states that it is unlawful for any person to "draw or
exhibit any deadly weapon . . . in a rude, angry, or threatening
manner, or . . . to unlawfully use a deadly weapon."  This does not
include use of such a weapon in self defense.

Local Ordinances - Here's Where the Law Gets Messy

If the laws above seem confusing, as the saying goes, "you ain't seen
nothin' yet."  Local ordinances vary from city to city, and county to
county.  Worse, California courts have been inconsistent in ruling on
the enforceability of these local laws.

For example, in the City of Los Angeles, it is illegal to publicly
carry, in plain view, any knife, dirk or dagger having a blade 3" or
more in length, any ice pick or similar sharp tool, any straight-edge
razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle.  (There are certain
exceptions, such as where the knife is for use in a "lawful
occupation, for lawful recreational purposes, or as a recognized
religious practice.") The County of Los Angeles has a similar rule,
which makes it illegal to openly carry, in public, "any knife having a
blade of three inches or more in length; any spring-blade,
switch-blade or snap-blade knife; any knife any blade of which is
automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical
device; any ice pick or similar sharp stabbing tool; any straight-edge
razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle."  In other words, it is
illegal in Los Angeles County to openly carry any knife with a blade
of 3" or longer.

It gets worse.  Los Angeles Code section 55.01 also makes it illegal
to carry any weapon concealed on one's person.  As such, in Los
Angeles, you can't openly carry a blade over 3", but you can't carry
such a weapon concealed, either.

Interestingly, the Courts have held that the Los Angeles law
forbidding carrying a concealed weapon is invalid.  In the 1968 case
of People v. Bass, a man was arrested and charged with carrying a
concealed folding knife.  The Court of Appeals overturned the
conviction, holding that the Los Angeles law conflicted with the state
law, and was therefore invalid.  Nonetheless, the Los Angeles law is
still on the books.

What is even more interesting is that other, more recent cases
completely contradict the decision in People v. Bass.  In the 1985
case of People v. Gerardoi, the defendant was charged with violating a
local law of the City of Commerce that is nearly identical to the Los
Angeles local law prohibiting carrying blades over 3".  On appeal, the
defendant cited the Bass case, arguing that the city code was invalid.
 The Gerardoi court rejected the holding of Bass, and found that the
city code was valid.

Where does all this information leave us?  The short answer is, in a
mess.  There are certainly things that are illegal: any switchblade
with a blade 2" or longer, or concealed possession of any knife with a
fixed blade.  Other knives may or may not be legal,

depending on how and where you carry them, and where you are in
California.  The best this to do is to check local ordinances before
deciding to carry a knife or any other weapon in California.  Better
yet, think twice before carrying a knife.  As you know, some cops look
for any excuse to hassle bikers.

Ride safe, and stay legal.  If either of these fail, call me!


Sy Nazif is a life-long motorcyclist and an attorney who specializes
in biker’s rights and representing motorcycle accident victims in
California.  He is a graduate of the esteemed University of California
Hastings College of Law in San Francisco, and has worked with AIM,
NCOM, and the COC.  He later founded and began his own
firm, which is quickly becoming one of the leading motorcycle rights
and injury firms in the state.


This article is written for informational purposes only and is not to
be construed as legal advice.

Sec. 20.10 – Weapons - Possession in Public - Prohibited

No person shall be or appear in any street, alley, sidewalk, parkway
or any public place or place open to public view while carrying upon
his person, or having in his immediate possession, any dangerous or
deadly weapon. This section shall not be construed to duplicate
prohibitions of California state statute, or to prohibit the
possession of weapons expressly authorized by California state

Oceanside California Knife Laws. As always I am not a lawyer and these
videos are strictly for informational Purposes only if you need legal
Advice Seek out A Criminal Lawyer. As always read and keep a copy of
all pertaining knife laws for yourself, practice stating them so you
sound confident and intelligent, you're your best advocate. Stopping
the process at the initial contact is better than wining a court case
after lots of legal action.

No Length Law for Folding Knives in California

True in general, but some areas like gov buildings, airports have them
but if you're smart you won't be carrying any knives into those places
toavoid the hassel. For the rest of the state just remember to check
out your local ordinaces and Municipal Codes they might have length
laws you might need to comply with. This is just merely information to
keep yourself a Legal Knife carrying Citizen of California. This video
has the Laws you should know and some definitions for terms for with
in the laws. Remember these videos are for strictly informational
purposes only if you need legal advice seek a Criminal Lawyer.

Over View of California Knife Laws

An Overview of Knife Laws in California, see other videos in series
for more detailed information on each law. Do watch parts 1 - 7
because they pertain to all of California, your City / County laws
"add" to not "take away" from the overall California laws. Reviewing
PC 12020 & PC 653k are "a must" in my opinion because they define
what's legal EDC (Every Day Carry). Link, pass on or just show friends
these videos, the more people know the less "bad law enforcement" can
mess with legal knife carrying citizens. Remember when you travel to
other parts of the state those laws pertain to you, so you must know
the laws of the area you are "staying in" if you are just passing
through an area it's something you can fight in court, the "pass
through law" you can't expect to know and follow every municipal code
in areas you are passing through. but you should and must abide by the
laws in the areas you are staying in. As always I am not a lawyer and
these videos are strictly for informational Purposes only if you need
legal Advice Seek out A Criminal Lawyer. As always read and keep a
copy of all pertaining knife laws for yourself, practice stating them
so you sound confident and intelligent, you're your best advocate.
Stopping the process at the initial contact is better than wining a
court case after lots of legal action.


article written by Jim March on 5/16/2002 titled,

"California Knife Laws: A Comprehensive Guide," url: